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    a wise man has spoken...
    smile

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    People can give tag suggestions as a comment under a sound if the realy want to. I can make my own decision to use it or not.

    Thats my idea about this discussion.

    The system we have now werks fine i think. Keep it simple.

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    Bram wrote:
    In FS1 only people who had uploaded sounds could tag other people's sounds.

    That would take care of many nines ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability#Percentage_calculation ) of people

    - bram


    I would still be scared about this because of "hate" tagging. User A may have uploaded a number of sounds, but suddenly develop a feud against User B and start tagging his sounds with rude words.
    This might go unnoticed for quite a while. And when noticed could be quite a lot of work to undo.
    Also, would not be traceable back to the offending user (like comments are)...

    I used to love this feature, but now see so much potential for mis-use and abuse that I would really recommend restricting it to a few trusted users. The idea to give this capability only to whitelisted users sounds good to me.

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    Nevermind, I found it smile

    http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/view_menu.html

    http://s22.postimg.org/ipeqc8ogh/Screenshot_from_2015_04_24_22_22_16.png

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    Hello, I hope someone can help me. I've recently switched to linux and I'm liking it so far.

    I switched from audition to audacity and I have to say that I'm impressed.

    I have a question. Does anybody know if I can set the default view to logarithmic? "Waveform (db)"
    It's a little black arrow next to track name, volume and pan options.
    Here is a screenshot:

    http://s16.postimg.org/5gwz6qc3p/Screenshot_from_2015_04_24_22_04_15.png

    I'd like to not have to set it every time I open audacity. Thanks in advance!

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    3686 - archont

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    Perhaps newer forum user roles may help.
    Moderators, Taggers, etc.

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    3685 - Syn

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    Actually Alien, those terms don't explicitly forbid Freesound to modify the preview. The file is already modified, because it's transcoded for the lower file size in preview quality (which is technically a modification).

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    Although it is a good idea, I'm scared of the prospect a little. Because believe it or not there's a limited amount of people I trust in the community (judging by the way people tag their own sounds). No offence, but although that number of trustworthy users is high in my book, we do have trolls inevitably here. And i've seen a good share of really bad tagging coming through moderation.

    What about whitelisted uploaders? (this does restrict the opportunity somewhat)

    And what about tag suggestions that send a notification to the uploader or moderator about a new improved tagging recommendation on their sound? (this would be the best way to include the majority which also bypasses tolling).

    I'm probably thinking too deeply into it, and perhaps it's the case that only dedicated members of the community will even use this opportunity.

    Food for thought

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    3684 - plant

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    3683 - Growing

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    In FS1 only people who had uploaded sounds could tag other people's sounds.

    That would take care of many nines ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_availability#Percentage_calculation ) of people

    - bram

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    There could be the possibility that in the analysis we write the maximum loudness somewhere in the HTML file and that the player can "negate" this volume somehow. I.e. some automatic gain control when the user hits play.

    This would be quite experimental, but it COULD actually work!

    Maybe something for a hack-day!

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    Yeah, I totally see your point. I wasn't really saying to straight up change uploads, but rather make it a recommendation, or have an option for listeners to do it in the preview player.

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    Bram alluded to this in his posts, but I will say it here very clearly.
    I do not think Freesound is allowed to modify the sounds. (unless we change the user agreements/terms)

    Freesound is a 'user content website'. We are only allowed to host the user's content 'as is', not allowed to modify it. - and this includes permanent changes such as normalizing the sounds.
    Sounds must remain at Freesound exactly as the user uploaded them.
    We are entitled to accept or reject a sound, but if we accept then we should not modify it.

    There is another discussion going in another forum about improving tags. Although related, these points are fundamentally different because of the licenses and upload terms.
    If I recall correctly, when uploading, the users will have no claims in relation to any 'metadata' (descriptions, tags) and other data they upload to Freesound (such as personal profiles). On the sounds, the terms are those of the chosen license and Freesound commits to hosting the sounds "as uploaded".

    So I think we are Ok in relation to tags, especially as we are talking about ADDING - the user original content would remain.
    As for the sounds themselves, they should remain as the uploader intended.

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    frederic.font wrote:
    Finally, in relation to strangely_gnarled's suggestion, in the past Freesound sounds could be tagged by anyone (not only the uploader). This functionality was removed in Freesound 2 because it was not being used. However, we think that it would be good that members of the community willing to participate more in Freesound could contribute by providing additional tags in existing sounds.

    Hi Fred!
    I strongly support this and I would definitely use this feature.
    However, I ask that if it is implemented, it is kept to a restricted number of trusted users.
    Not because I am an elitist, but because we have seen a few spammers and trolls here recently.
    In the wrong hands, the ability to tag other people's sounds could do a lot of damage, which would then be difficult, if not impossible, to undo.

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    3681 - pains

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    Bram wrote:
    Do a search for normalization on the forum. We've had this request before...
    There are many reasons not to do it wink

    - bram

    Actually I remember that conversation now you mention it.

    Here it is: http://www.freesound.org/forum/bug-reports-errors-and-feature-requests/33429/

    Its was nice to reminisce on that, thank you.

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    Do a search for normalization on the forum. We've had this request before...
    There are many reasons not to do it wink

    - bram