Okay - have checked out with a hearing specialist here in London and she is categorical that these Mosquito Device frequencies will cause no harm to hearing. (It's low frequencies that harm hearing as discussed in the forum.)
It doesn't make it any less an insipid thing. But it does mean it's not making kids deaf. Thank goodness.
Now - I really want to try and bring attention to how easy it's been for people to use sound as a weapon in a public space. I'm talking to a few people here in London and it would be really great to know where else they are.
Thanks for all the posts so far.
I understand that ERH and I don't consider myself an advocate of those devices but I tried to point out that the 'public' dimension of the public space is relative. The places I talked about where not considered public for the majority of people passing - even though it concerns metro stations and town squares. They were public to a limited group of people, i.e. the young people we talked about. Now the balance has shifted in favour of those people who were afraid to visit those places. This means limiting the access for young people.
The main question is indeed whether the means suit the end. It is draconian. It may very well lead to a downward spiral, an arms race and that would make things much worse. But this is how most people like it! The immediate (short-term) effect is that these places become 'public' again. There was a report on Dutch television yesterday about the application of the mosquito in Utrecht (Kanaaleiland) and respondents were very satisfied. Of course, no one asked the teenagers. Policy makers like this: easy to realise, instant success! The alternative is muddling through without clear and favourable results - even though 'favourable' is relative...
So - let's do some provocation here - how would you solve this issue in a different way?
(see, I like to play the devil's advocate! )
i'll upload some dnb bass sounds and some leads this weekend
hey im lookin for a pack of dnb samples... am i searchin wrong cos there isnt alot on this website is there..
D'oh. Fixed it now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snS9zDA5Tt8
haha walked right into that one guess!
alright cool, i see the issue, and appreciate your input
and.... the url is?
Simon - I cannot hear the sound even after download. Perhaps I am just TOO old! This thread seems to be very emotive. I understand LG's comments about the beneficial effect on the local community but this begs the perennial question - does the end justify the means. In this case I think not. Mark the young Scot really says it all. This device is an assault on all young people not just those who are moved on by it but all innocent youngsters. My main concern is "where will this sort of thing end"?
In a fictional EB.White story he writes of a country secures world domination by sending pilotless planes with huge speakers kicking out an repeating unendurable sound which immediatley sent the people insane allowing the Uruguay army to march in and take over. According to some people they would only have to play some of my horrible sounds once to get the same effect. And don't forget the film Mars Attacks where the alien invaders are defeated by playing the Indian Love Song to them which makes their heads explode!!!! Both these examples have a comic side but of course the mosquito device is capable of causing pain and harm and seems to be unregulated. The irony is that the many of the people who advocate its use would be the first to complain if youngsters set up a band in next door's garage and banged out some crude but cool rock music.
Just thought you might like to see a short film I made last year as the final project for my visual storytelling class. It's called "Technical Difficulties" and you can guess what it's about.
The only freesound sample I used was Kettleswitch1 (remix2) by Freqman, but it uses the Sampling Plus-licensed song "Good Morning" by our very own Pitx. The score music is from Elephant's Dream, the open source animated feature, and is available under an Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.5 license.
could someone make me a quick sample of a referee whistle (about 2 secs. long).....thanks!
Well, You just have to push through it. Music can be gruelingly hard work at times and is the greatest thing on earth at others. Look for little aspects that define the music you like. Believe it or not, being a good producer/musician is as much about listening intently as it is about practice. Don't ignore the times you feel inspired and have an urge to create. They come and go in waves. The trick is to keep working even during the times you feel a lull in creativity settle in. Best of luck.
You might be setting yourself up for a snappy punch line with that question, but seriously folks... most stuff would be copyright shady from the publishers side if reading from a copyrighted book. However there are tons of less copyrighted "books on tape" out there in mp3 format mostly. I put links to 2 articles on finding that kind of stuff if you can't find it hear. Users here might be less reluctent to read a script that you need, that you wrote... or have them rattle something off in the vain of a book in that genre. Be careful, if you read dianetics outload I heard tom cruise comes to your house and stands on your couch.
Here is the actual weapon of mass destruction. It can't be heard while in preview mode (the lo-fi version that is played probably had this "unhearable" frequency chopped off) , you'll have to download it. If you or someone around you might hear it, TURN THE VOLUME DOWN. It hurts. Really.
This today from an articulate young man I know in Scotland:
Dear Karl James
I certainly agree with you. It is destroying our human rights. I am a near teenager at 12 years old and I am not a dumb yob with no self respect. They are not respecting our rights and it is aganst many acts in the universal decloration of human rights. It is realy anyoing noise and some of or older users say that it is anoying as well. I think that it is just like some modern wepons used in ww2. The people who install it are ignorant little tyrants and I bet soon someone will take this to court.
Thank you for your debate subject and I shall bring this up with my peers
Mark (Full name Name withheld by KJ)
Chairman and Room 13 Regular
What exactly do you mean by grimey? Name some artists. I suggest buying a crate of old-ass vynils and start digging, if you have the same grimey as me in mind.
im talkin grime bro like the sounds mr.slash or ratchet mr.snowman danny weed and wiley use.
and im usin reason by the way so vinyls ent really gna help me fam
safe any way
Public place are supposed to be healthy and wholesome for all age groups, or they aren't public places. That this is even being allowed is insane. It's targeting children's ears, which are still fragile and growing. So they're meant to stop people from hanging around or visiting? what about kids that are with their parents, and have to deal with the children's complaints of ear aches? Kids that are being made deaf to certain sounds? It just... *sigh* I can't believe this is serious. :x