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    121 sounds
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    Hey guys,

    Interesting. This was of course bound to happen at some point. I used to regularly find people selling my audio effect plugins on ebay (i.e. they are free on my site!).

    People letting 3rd parties sell content on their site have no excuse. I.e. if AudioSparx has content on their pages which has been put there by a 3rd party and sell that content, they have to be 100% sure that content is not illegal.

    I have contacted the website, and will contact creative commons as well.

    - Bram

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    5 sounds
    2 posts

    Hi, I'm looking for the sound of a water balloon popping for a video production.
    I've searched for splashing sounds, but none seem to be what I want.

    Thanks.

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    1366 sounds
    123 posts

    wisslgisse
    Hi,

    I sent a comment that I had noticed materials on the site that were similar to those here and received a fast and concerned response. Their head seems to be in the right place.

    Here it is.

    ...
    AudioSparx provides a marketplace for vendors and owners of audio content a place to sell their products. We take very seriously any complaints of copyright violation and improperly sub-licensed content, and will promptly remove any such offending content from the site once it is brought to our attention and substantiated.

    Which content are you referring to specifically? Do you have catalog id numbers you can provide? We will contact any vendors that act contrary to our licensing requirements and/or is violating the copyrights of content owners. Please note that as a marketplace service provider, per the DMCA AudioSparx is not responsible for any improper content that our vendors place on the site, but we will certainly act to correct any specific situations that are brought to our attention. Any help you can provide in that regard is appreciated.

    Regards,

    Lee Johnson
    lee@audiosparx.com
    ...

    I am not sure this indicates their head is in the right place. It has already been brought to their attention that one of their "vendors" is selling illegal material and yet he is still there strutting his stuff. If they took violations seriously they would have removed him and his files immediately. Clearly they take a cut from each sale and with thousands of files under USAMA's name they may stand to lose a good income stream. It should not matter. Secondly they claim they are not responsible for the actions of their vendors. I think this is plain wrong and they have already made an acceptance of liability in Dobroide's case. NAPSTER - ring a bell?

    Another big factor is the sheer volume of sounds under USAMA'S name. Anyone who has uploaded a lot of individual files to freesound knows just how time consuming it is. And that does not take into account the time spent in making them! It is impossible to imagine creating and/or legally acquiring 47,000 files and uploading them without some sort of mass appropriation. It has taken me 18 months and many many hours to get 800+ files on freesound.

    We have to be pragmatic about what happens at freesound - although I am sure that many downloads are made without the sounds being used but there have been over 7 million downloads so far and it is certain that a lot of those have been used without credit. It will always happen. Personally I can live with that. It is noticeable that even though a file may have had 2 or 3 thousand downloads I only get a handful of links or acknowledgements and that tells its own story. Again I don't have a problem with that - most will be used in amateur non commercial projects and that is fine. What is different about audiosparx is that they are stealing the sounds and selling them as their own which is incredible.

    I think we should put pressure on them to remove USAMA and every effort should be made to find out his freesound ID. Of course anyone with such larcenous tendencies will pop up under a new name but for now it's all we can do.

    One thing I have done is identify the illegal activity on my Internet Security software's site assessment page.

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    433 sounds
    197 posts

    On the History Channel series "The Universe" they mention that Jupiter's magnetosphere produces what's called "lion roar" or "chirping" sounds in car stereo systems. Apparently this only occurs on desolate roads where radio interference is minimal, and at certain times of the year depending on Jupiter's orbit in relation to our own.

    In another series about space (it might have been The Universe again but it can't remember) they say that a small part of radio hiss or white noise is actually "sound" from the Big Bang. Supposedly the "sound" is actually radio interference caused by remnant electromagnetic energy still floating around out there from when the universe was formed.

    I wonder if anyone has recording of either of these (of course the latter would be easy to get a recording of). It'd be interesting to hear what the celestial bodies are saying.

    P.S. If sound had a medium to travel through in space I wonder what the sun would sound like.
    :roll:

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    433 sounds
    197 posts

    Just last month my dad was watching a video on YouTube posted by the American Conservative Union (ACU) that same day. At the end of the video I heard a familiar sound and sure enough it was MY OWN. I looked at their credits, the short description, even their tags...no attribution. I signed up for a Youtube account just to call em out on it. I hassled them with an ultimatum stating that if they didn't attribute me then I'd be forced to contact Creative Commons and the owner of Freesound. The next day the person that posted the video added my Freesound screen name onto the credits. grin

    If one person has used my sounds without attributing then I'm sure a few hundred others have as well. Same goes for almost every other user on Freesound. It's not fair and it's not right but logically speaking we'll never track down every single person who was infringed upon this license and robbed us of our time and effort (not to mention our well deserved money).

    You just have to look on the bright side of it. Do a Google search of your Freesound screen name and see how many people have used, appreciated, and credited your sounds.
    I searched my screen name and found many works scattered over 15 pages of Google that have used my sounds.
    It's good to know that a few people out there obey the rules and show common courtesy to their fellow man.

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    2 posts

    sanus_excipio
    if i remember right, the 822 uses 3.5 mm mini plugs as opposed to xlr connectors.

    I've recorded a variety of circumstances from distant ambiances, to church pipe organs from a hundred feet to instrumentals and vocals from a few feet, to close-ups such as a music box with my at825.

    I'm not dissuading you from considering other worthy or better options. For me, the AT825 has worked very well.

    I own the at822.

    The only difference between the at822 and the at825 is the phantom power options (there could be slight differences in other areas as well but i doubt its very much). the 825 can use phantom power OR battery power whereas the 822 only uses a double A battery ONLY. Both can terminate to left and right XLR or to a single stereo 1/8" or to RCA. the cable is totally separate from the mic. I like my 822 but if I were needed to record field/nature, it would sound better with a pre-amp in front of it since that is what pre-amps do. Take a listen to different 822/825 recordings as well as 3032 recordings. For $225, the 822 is a great buy for a single point stereo mic.

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    3095 sounds
    479 posts

    wisslgisse, thanx for your interest

    I have compiled a preliminary list of samples stolen by USAMA from Freesound, see below. In the mean time (and until I can find the time to write to Audiosparx again) I will enjoy the pleasure of googling USAMA+Audiosparx and getting a post (this post) about sample theft, Audiosparx, USAMA, parasites of Creative Commons stuff, etcetera smile Of course I will keep searching for stolen samples at Audiosparx, how not!

    As people reading this may want to check by themselves, here's my (preliminary) list:

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.249310
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=22691

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248274
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=33790

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248273
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=33700

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248252
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=29654

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.249331
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=27350

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248251
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=29653

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248240
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=22381

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248240
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=19544

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248222
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=19540

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248225
    vs
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=19543

    Cheers

    D

    EDIT: a google search for audiosparx+sound theft shows this post, just like audiosparx+stolen. Isn't funny?

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    37 sounds
    44 posts

    Hi,

    I sent a comment that I had noticed materials on the site that were similar to those here and received a fast and concerned response. Their head seems to be in the right place.

    Here it is.

    ...
    AudioSparx provides a marketplace for vendors and owners of audio content a place to sell their products. We take very seriously any complaints of copyright violation and improperly sub-licensed content, and will promptly remove any such offending content from the site once it is brought to our attention and substantiated.

    Which content are you referring to specifically? Do you have catalog id numbers you can provide? We will contact any vendors that act contrary to our licensing requirements and/or is violating the copyrights of content owners. Please note that as a marketplace service provider, per the DMCA AudioSparx is not responsible for any improper content that our vendors place on the site, but we will certainly act to correct any specific situations that are brought to our attention. Any help you can provide in that regard is appreciated.

    Regards,

    Lee Johnson
    lee@audiosparx.com
    ...

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    37 sounds
    44 posts

    One other thing that could be done is for freesound.org as an entity to send letters to all the major motion picture and television studios letting them know that audiosparx is selling sound samples for which they claim they have copyright, but in fact have no copyright. Mention that many of those samples are from this website, http://www.freesound.org. Tell them they leave themselves open to potential lawsuits if they ustilize the samples from autiosparx. Copy audiosparx on the correspondence.

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    37 sounds
    44 posts

    Wow! I didn't join, so I didn't listen to any sounds, but a quick perusal of the sounds there by USAMA showed at least a dozen or two sounds that I have listened to on freesound. As you say, he doesn't even bother to change the name. At the prices they charge, he could be making a tidy living. It's possible that USAMA is a nym that the owners of autiosparx are using. It wouldn't be too hard for bram to identify him from freesound. Just pick the samples he's stolen, and run a sql query to determine what names are in common with all of them. I saw samples from musical, to gunshots, to explosions, to animals, to ...

    If you recognize any of your sounds you should ask them to remove them, but also ask for contact information for USAMA. I think that if you ask for the information for legal purposes, so that you can present a subpoena, they have to provide it.

    Hey, look on the bright side. If anyone has used your samples in a movie or commercial without your consent you could have won the lottery. smile
    Perhaps you've always wanted to move to where USAMA lives, and you can take his house and car from him in court.There was a lady recently in Minnesota who was fined hundred of thousands of dollars for letting copyrighted songs be downloaded. Lots of possibilities here. wink

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    15 sounds
    135 posts

    What an asshole. His user info says he's from Washington D.C. Maybe someone could send him a cease and desist or a fake letter complimenting "his" sounds and wanting to know more about his works. Maybe we can get more info on him and bash the crap out of him at a site or something.

    Audiosparx sucks. They'll sell freeish samples and get you into legal trouble for using them incorrectly because they don't show the CC license. Audio Sparx sucks. There, now hopefully we'll show up in search results at least to scare people away from the site.

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    4 sounds
    31 posts

    Somebody, rape USAMA's skull if you see him live.
    Basically, it happens. It's life. But once we've got those who don't accept such behavior, we can make these thieves disappear or at least evoke a response from their conscience.
    Be aware.

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    0 sounds
    3 posts

    NoiseCollector
    Search "multi-sample" or multisample or multi sample. There are some on here, but not so many of typical instruments found in a general MIDI map.

    There are also numerous spots on the web, an american college, a british symphony, etc. that have multisamples of orchestral instruments, I never got to into them because most synths have the generic orchestra sound samples built in, but they are out there:

    http://www.philharmonia.co.uk/thesoundexchange/the_orchestra/instruments/

    Much easier to get them here though:

    http://www.archive.org/details/orchestral_samples

    Here is the college I mentioned above...

    http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.html

    This one seems to be down at the moment...

    Here is a reference to another variation of the link:

    http://www.sonicspot.com/iowa-free-musical-instrument-samples/iowa-free-musical-instrument-samples.html

    Damn frustrating...

    Its a pity the iowa university samples are down. They seem to be exactly what i'm looking for. I've done some searching around the web for 'multisample' and came up with the OLPC audio library (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sound_samples) which, from what i've downloaded so far, looks like it could be perfect. Unfortunately the piano link is down, but hopefully it will be restored soon.

    Thanks for your help smile

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    1366 sounds
    123 posts

    It is good that they have responded quickly but as you say this is probably the tip of the iceberg and if this is their only response it is s total cop-out. If this USAMA user was found to be using and selling material illegally he and all his sounds should be removed immediately from the site. In many other walks of life such blatant theft would be treated as exactly what it is - criminal and liable to prosecution.

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    3095 sounds
    479 posts

    yes, I got response very fast actually (pasted below). Only problem is they remove only a couple samples I referenced precisely, but I cant spend my time searching the original here, then the copy at Audiosparx, etcetera.

    The 'artist' USAMA (which obviously is also a user here, under a different nick) changes files names, and makes slight modifications in the descriptions. Finding out what he/she had been doing was easy in this case due to the the vocal (and Spanish) nature of the samples, but it could be difficult for other sample types. Again, what worries me is the assessment that Freesound can be very easily parasitized, and that sound released under CC license can end up into the dark, Mordor-like landscape of Copyrighted materials. We all should be aware, and be ready to react as... sound must be free

    Anyway, the guy is quite pathetic (hope you're reading this, USAMA) because downloaders remain registered at Freesound, so one can get to know a lot.

    The response from Audiosparx:
    ---------
    We have confirmed what you are saying and have removed the tracks you referenced in your message. AudioSparx represents content from over 1,400 different content providers and we don't review each track as it is uploaded to the site. Please don't let the improper actions of one content provider be taken as a reflection of AudioSparx in general. If you become aware of any other such tracks of yours on the AudioSparx site don't hesitate to bring them to our attention.

    Thanks and regards,

    Lee

    ---

    EDIT:

    just to prove my assertion that samples taken from Freesound remain in Audiosparx, compare this sample by Bram:
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=19542
    with
    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248224

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    1366 sounds
    123 posts

    Thanks for bringing this up Dobroide - it seems that you may have already got some reaction as the links you have given are now coming up with a "no file" message. This does not mean that audiosparx has removed all its stolen freesound files so further action is necessary. USAMA seems like a busy guy - he has 47000 files on there and I would love to know where they all come from. Can freesound.org get involved? I know from personal experience that a lot of files get taken from here and used without permission. This is always going to happen but on this scale it is a serious rip-off.

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    3095 sounds
    479 posts

    I have sent a note to Audiosparx which I reproduce below, maybe someone could read it (living and working in Spain I don't trust web contact forms, ha ha, at all!). English is not my first language, and I'm not used to this kind of stuff but hopefully I used a corteous tone.

    Oh, and thanks by your support, to all of you!

    Cheers

    D

    ------------------------------------

    Hello,

    I'm sorry to tell your are offering a number of samples illegally, specifically most under:
    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/archive/Talking//32931-dobroide-20070330-quevedo-sonet/248271

    , and all other Spanish vocal samples by user USAMA. I know because I am the author of the samples (it's my voice), which were released under a Creative Commons License at www.freesound.org

    USAMA just took the samples from Freesound, changed the names of the files a bit and - after some minor modifications to description - uploaded to Audiosparx claiming authorship. You may check, if you wish to compare:

    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.248271
    with:
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=32931

    or:
    http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/play/play.cfm/sound_iid.249330
    with
    http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=27327

    There are many more examples. Allowing such parasitic behavior at your site gives a very poor image of Audiosparx, and it's in your own interest to remove the offending samples. Please do so.

    Yours

    Dob R Oide

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    This song is produced by Drumma Boy and he uses that sound in many of his songs check out "White Girl" by Young Jeezy and "Juice Box" by Gorilla Zo. Sorry I do not have the sample as I assume it is copyrighted by Drumma Boy himself. However, try modulating the pitch of a string sample from low to hi and you can create a similar effect.

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    3113 sounds
    312 posts

    Probably not so helpful, but maybe...

    Old cello pizzicato
    Old Fender P-Bass

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    1134 sounds
    284 posts

    I admired your composure Dobroide, because this is dirty. It is not even the money-thing that is so objectionable (although it is definitely not legal without your consent)... but their claim of copyright is perverse! Have you contacted them already?