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    4343 - fusion

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    AlienXXX wrote:
    As with everything on the internet, you can't see the people making the comments, so it is easy to mis-judge.

    Good point!

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    As with everything on the internet, you can't see the people making the comments, so it is easy to mis-judge.
    Even when someone writes "it's good, can you make it shorter/longer/louder?" Maybe it is a 12 year old doing a school project and this is the first sound he downloaded from the internet... Although that is unlikely. Especially as 12 year olds these days tend to know more about computers than we do!

    Anyway, just in case, (if I am in a good mood) sometimes I would respond to say "Download Audacity and you can easily do that yourself."

    But some people write "you are a f*gg*t" or "F*** you" - For those simply use the 'report' button and delete the comment. There is obviously no value in responding to such comments.

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    http://freesound.org/people/jamesabdulrahman/sounds/320521/

    The sound I described. Not moderated yet, but check it out when it’s available.

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    jamesabdulrahman wrote:
    I’ll jump them behind the bike sheds.

    Could have done with you at my school! Funnily enough, I'm not worried about it at all. Thanks for the kind words about my sounds by the way. Just beginning, so hope future ones will show constant improvement. If not I'll have fun playing verbal chess with the jerks.

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    I think this screenshot tells you everything you need to know about the "most common downloader" on freesound.

    http://s3.postimg.org/eacoglqur/Capture.png

    No comments, no attributions (even though it's attribution license)... but what can you do....

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    Last year I created a patch that sounded like an ‘unsheathed blade’ using Dexed (a Yamaha DX7 clone). I’ll upload it, it might be what you’re after.

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    I need something as similar as possible to this double Crash/Splash/Kick sound that can be heard twice during this little snippet.

    https://soundcloud.com/unrealassid/crash-crash

    I would be so thankful if anyone could help me.

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    PapercutterJohn wrote:
    Haha! There's some good ones! Hope I'm quick witted enough to deal with what's inevitably coming. I think I'm up to it, lol (Famous last words).

    Don’t worry John, I think that abusive comments are the exception rather than the rule on FS compared to, say, YouTube. Besides, your sounds are great, so if anyone bad-mouths them I’ll jump them behind the bike sheds.

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    I generally think that the star ratings are not the most useful thing for locating quality sounds compared to tagging, descriptions, a bit of patience and those ever-useful ears.

    I don’t necessarily get annoyed about it, although occasionally (on a more general level) I get frustrated by the culture of rating and commenting on everything that seems prevalent in the modern world. To be fair on social media culture, it far predates that — I remember when ‘txt msgin’ was the new and hip thing and radio presenters would spend five minutes after playing a new song reading out opinions that people you didn’t know or care about had just thumbed into their Nokia 3310.

    (As an aside, another thing that I find hilarious/tragic is when people accuse bloggers who exercise editorial control over their comments, or as in my case don’t have a comment function at all, of “violating others’ right to free speech”! As if your right to stand on a soapbox and insult me obliges me to provide you with said soapbox, a PA system and light refreshments for that purpose...)

    Personally, I like being able to take someone else’s sound and edit it to make it my own. I just find it, forgive the term, kind of lame to expect someone else to make all the sounds I want for me.

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    Headphaze wrote:
    We've witnessed much worse in terms of commenting.
    Check this thread for many many laughs!

    http://www.freesound.org/forum/freesound-project/33512/

    Haha! There's some good ones! Hope I'm quick witted enough to deal with what's inevitably coming. I think I'm up to it, lol (Famous last words).

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    4342 - Nuclear

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    AlienXXX wrote:
    everything is immediate and expected to be free (or paid for by someone else) some young kids have very short attention spans. They no longer amaze at the amazing things the internet can do. For them is a given, was here when they were born, they grew with it and expect everything to be there for free and to be easy.
    I have seen people comment on sounds saying things like. "It is good, just what I need. Can you make it louder?" - Well... download the damn sound, get it into a sound editor and do it yourself!

    Generation Z is like a syndrome grin

    @John
    We've witnessed much worse in terms of commenting.
    Check this thread for many many laughs!

    http://www.freesound.org/forum/freesound-project/33512/

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    4341 - fission

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    AlienXXX wrote:
    I have seen people comment on sounds saying things like. "It is good, just what I need. Can you make it louder?" - Well... download the damn sound, get it into a sound editor and do it yourself!

    I haven't been recording or using the site for long but I happily stumbled across a comment that said "Make it shorter" to which the reply was "Make it shorter yourself you lazy t**t!" (Their's wasn't asterixed).

    I've been laughing about that one ever since. But yes, you're right, a lot of people want everything wrapped up and perfect, which is strange because I tend to upload quite long recordings so people can take the short section they want and edit it. If you do too much yourself you may be limiting people's creative choices.

    I guess that's the inherant problem. If you upload clips that have room for other people to creatively tweak, you're going to get negative ratings from the uncreative people who just want to take the perfect clip. I'm going to stick with my habit of uploading stuff people can play about with. More people can get use of it that way.

    If I've heard right I think the general belief is that the rating system doesn't help much so it's up to users to ignore the ratings and think for yourself, (which the truly creative would do anyway I guess).

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    Headphaze wrote:
    But do you really believe that a user searching for a particular sound will look at the rating and then not bother to audition the sound? I really doubt that.

    Yes and no.

    In this twiter and Facebook generation, where everything is immediate and expected to be free (or paid for by someone else) some young kids have very short attention spans. They no longer amaze at the amazing things the internet can do. For them is a given, was here when they were born, they grew with it and expect everything to be there for free and to be easy.
    I have seen people comment on sounds saying things like. "It is good, just what I need. Can you make it louder?" - Well... download the damn sound, get it into a sound editor and do it yourself!

    The point being. Yes, unfortunately some people will just want to look at the "best" sounds. IF you grew up with Facebook, it is all about how many likes you have got. So any sound that is not 5 star is too uncool even to listen to!

    Someone who is really considering using the sound is likely to want to audition many sounds before choosing.
    However, not every user that comes here to download something knows well how this site works. So I guess many may still follow the ratings system as a good indicator. I think that is confirmed by PapercutterJohn experience with the effect of ratings on sound downloads.

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    hello all im new to using the sound effects i have it downloaded how do i use it so when i click my mouse u can hear it click smile

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    Yeah, as I said, I don't think there should be a rating system at all. Because obviously it's biased. All it takes is one poor rating by a user who arguably has an entirely subjective opinion about a particular sound to ruin the reputation of that upload.

    This is a topic that's cropped up several times in the past few years, so you're not alone with your concerns.

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    4340 - Osmosis

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    Headphaze wrote:
    Ratings only showing for a sound that have a minimum amount of submissions, this would counteract this single rating bias.

    I like that. I think you've got it sussed!
    Mind you, as people use the samples for a massively wide variety of purposes, perhaps rating is irrelevant. what's good for one is useless for another.

    If there is a rating system, I think your idea is excellent smile