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    Hi Alien,

    Thank you. I got it on that level now cheers.

    But what I am really stuck on is the actual PROCESS of how to go about the SAMPLING procedure. For example, do I need to set 'Cubase' to '16-bit' or '24' if I am recording a vintage MOOG synth? And do I need to EXPORT the audio Wav file at the exact same bit-depth as I RECORDED in?

    Is there an ideal 'dB' (say '-4') which I should adhere to when RECORDING in the single notes? Also, because the volume of the SAMPLES (eg. Moog) will differ depending on which notes I am playing (ie. low notes will probably sound louder than higher ones), should I modify the INPUT GAIN (in 'Cubase') accordingly to try to maintain a consistent (say) '-4dB' throughout the entire RANGE of the synth (ie. so that low to high notes are all the same volume)?

    As I say, I am totally new to this . . .

    Ta,

    Paul

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    Alien,

    The 'DX' synths I think are '12-bit' across the board but don't quite me on that! I am going to check on another forum I used to often frequent (so I will confirm this if I get an answer).

    So are you saying that if a synth is (say) '16-bit', then when you RECORD and EXPORT it (say in 'Cubase') then it needs to be also in '16-bit'?

    Cheers,

    Paul

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    Alien,

    Well as far as I can remember, whenever I have gone to RIP and CD via my laptop, it is always an mp3 format/icon which shows. I wonder then if I might need to alter the settings in order for it to show Wav by default?

    And so, to reiterate what you are saying, maybe the contents of a CD are Wav but most PC's (are configured to) assume that the user wants to RIP them in an mp3 format?

    Ta,

    Paul

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    Hi,

    If someone COMMENTS on one of my uploads, then do I receive an email notification please? Or if not, can such a message be activated within UCP 'settings'?

    Otherwise, it would entail myself having to scroll through all circa 80 x sounds (so far) just to see if anyone has left any verbatim?!

    Cheers,

    Paul

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    4996 - circus

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    Sonoquilibrium

    You are confused perhaps by the meaning of the words.

    free = you don't need to pay to get it. Does not mean it is not copyrighted.
    public domain = You can do whatever you want with it, can commercialize it and don't even need to say where you got it from.

    Some sounds at Freesound are under the CC0 license, which is equivalent to 'public domain'. But some require that you give attribution and some even forbid commercial use (i.e. you cannot use those sounds for anything that generates an income for yourself).
    The license for each sound is clearly displayed on each sound page.
    It is easy to use filters during your search so that only CC0 sounds come up, if that is what you are interested in.

    There iis no charge to download or use the sounds or a membership fee.

    This site is called FREESOUND, not PUBLICDOMAINSOUND. So the designation is correct,

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    I wanted just to talk about the word ´´FREE SOUND´´. On my website, I have a section of Free Sounds / Freebies and whoever download sounds, it´s free to use them in projects as he/she wants and if he/she wants can mention the owner of the sounds in his/her project.

    Here are freesound.org they have laws, that when you download you are not 100% free to use them like a free sound. I wanted to say, that BRAM (Administrator of the Freesound.org) could change the name of the page. Of course this is just my opinion.

    Freesounds on my website
    And you are free to use them like you want!

    http://www.sonoquilibrium.com/freebies/

    And more Free Sounds you can find on my Soundcloud Account
    https://soundcloud.com/sonoquilibrium

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    Yes, Freesound detects a lot of data about the file format, probably from the file headers (don't know the technical stuff).

    Sounds on CD are uncompressed, so they really are wav format. Many ripping programs convert to mp3, since most people ripping CDs wanted to put their entire CD collection onto their hard-drive or were excited to be able to compress 10 CDs into one using mp3.

    I do not know how many bits in the DX21, but for sure not 32 or even 24. Seems unnecessary to go up to these bitdepths, especially if the sound is not 'hi-fi' to begin with.

    Surprising how many bit-rate / bit-depth reducing VST plugins there are. Looks like there is a lo of interest in introducing digital artifacts into sounds that don't have them for musical purposes. Go figure...

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    That seems perfectly reasonable. And put all related sounds into a pack (e.g 3 notes per octave, 5 octaves = 15 sounds).

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    Hi,

    Only 11 x days to go until our UK Referendum . . . !

    Cheers,

    Paul

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    Well, it lets me upload wav, aif and mp3, but not flac. I didn't try ogg.

    AlienXXX wrote:
    Freesound servers have been giving my time-out errors very frequently in the last 48h.
    I suspect it is a general problem and not to do with the flac file format.
    This has been reported to the admins already.

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    Sonoquilibrium wrote:
    Hi!

    My question is maybe naive or stupid, but why they have the name ´´FREESOUND´´ if the sounds can not be used as a free content. It´s free download, but you can not use it as a free sound?

    Why?

    Thanks for the answers.

    Did you get the sound for free? Yes. That's why it's called freesound.

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    snv1985 wrote:
    Trump is a nazi

    This meme comes to mind:

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    A bit earlier this year I took the plunge and changed over from the Sony PCM-M10 to the PCM-D100 for my natural soundscape recording - but immediately was frustrated by the extreme, insane, wind-sensitivity of the latter model's microphones - all the more galling because of the supremely, breathtakingly, wide, sharply focused and lifelike soundstage that those mics produce in the wide stereo configuration. I found that even with the best furry windshields I could turn up (still nothing was better than the original version of the Rode Deadkitten), I could get useful recordings only if conditions were nearly calm. A light breeze was too much, unless perhaps it was force 1 Bft (and one had some shelter from that!). Pretty useless altogether for natural soundscape recording! I was really getting close to screaming / hair-tearing point about this.

    To my great relief I have now come up with a workable solution, which I recommend to all who want to use that excellent recorder with a genuinely useful degree of wind protection.

    I am now using two windshields for each recorder - a furry over a non-furry.

    The base layer, then, is the Movo WST-R30 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012Y85YME/) of the correct size for the D100 (and D50 and similar-size recorders). This windshield, which is actually seriously inadequate on its own, serves a particularly useful function in maintaining a reasonable still air space in front of the mics even when in wide stereo (120-degrees) configuration.

    The outer layer is a furry windshield from Windcut (http://windcut.co.uk/), custom-made to fit over the Movo non-furry. Windcut make particularly effective furry windshields (I didn't know of them when I wrote my comparative review of windshields a few years ago), and, despite superior performance their furries are much cheaper than equivalents from big-name sources such as Rycote or Rode. This particular combination shows up on my comparative fan test to give me at least as good performance in the wind as I got with the PCM-M10 wearing a Rode DeadKitten (original version, which is better performing than the current, black version).

    At last I'll now be able to record usefully in a reasonable range of light breeze situations.

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    Bram wrote:
    https://www.freesound.org/help/faq/#what-do-i-need-to-do-to-legally-use-the-files-on-freesound

    You cant freely use -NC sounds in any non-private project.

    I.e. if you cant use -NC sounds to make a youtube video, because either you or youtube make money from ads.

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    monsterjazzlicksI don't see how 'illegals' will be able to 'support' Trump because they won't be able to VOTE (due them being 'illegals')!?

    I think if you're mexican or Jewish business owner, and one of your employees is Trump supporter, then it is won't be a bad idea to fire him (for made up reason) and hire an illegal immigrant instead, or just outsourcing his job, because american minimal wage is so ridiculously high.

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    Hi,

    Yes, 44.1/16-bit is CD quality. Though the thing I have never understood is that everyone tells me the audio format on a CD is Wav files. Yet when I go to 'rip' a CD or view it's contents, they always seem to show as mp3's (to me)?!

    It is possible to detect the difference between 16-bit and 24 (if you have a keen and healthy ear), but I very much doubt us hearing up to 32-bit? Unless of course you are an Alien!

    It seems that when you upload a Wav to FreeSound, the system detects what the sample-rate is (because it is displaying this information on my tracks and I did not type it in). But from now on, I think I will try and stick to 48kHz/24-bit. I personally do not see the need to go any higher for the purposes of FreeSound. Plus it will take damn near forever to upload! lol

    In case you had not noticed, my recordings to date are of external synthesizers being recording (via my Steinberg soundcard) directly into 'Cubase'. Sometimes, with the 'DX' and 'Moog' keyboards there is some aliasing as on the track "Flow" during the closing passage:

    https://www.freesound.org/people/monsterjazzlicks/sounds/347263/

    That is the 'DX' and there is nothing that can be done about it unfortunately. Some might argue that it is a 'character' of the instrument. That may be so, but it is not a very GOOD character!

    I opened a thread earlier today on making SAMPLES of my own synth. Not sure if the topic might interest you or not?:

    https://www.freesound.org/forum/off-topic/38615/

    Cheers,

    Paul

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    Hi Alien,

    Yes, well maybe you are correct in that people download things for a variety of reasons.

    Do you know, I have never purchased/downloaded an mp3 track ever in my life! I still much prefer to own the physical CD.

    I confess that I own a couple of HD's full of stuff I have never even looked at! People insist on giving me materials (despite me telling them I will never use it) and probably 500GB has just sat there unused for a good 5 x years!

    I do not have any recording projects sitting there stagnant/redundant, but I have had a backlog of 'Sibelius' arrangements which need addressing (since 2012!).

    That is rather disappointing to hear that after so many downloads people have not bothered to leave any comments. Personally, if I hear something I like (say on 'You Tube') then I always give it a thumbs up and thank the uploader. Just seems like good old fashioned manners to me!

    Ta,

    Paul

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    Freesound servers have been giving my time-out errors very frequently in the last 48h.
    I suspect it is a general problem and not to do with the flac file format.
    This has been reported to the admins already.

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    monsterjazzlicks wrote:
    Does it matter if sounds are EXPORTED (and UPLOADED) in '32-bit' please?

    Well, it makes the files bigger...

    If I got my facts right, 16-bit @ 44kHz sampling rate is CD quality. You would have thought that is high quality enough, but no...
    Nowadays we have 24-bit and 32-bit sounds. With 64-bit operating systems now being the norm, maybe it is not too long until we start seeing a 64-bit sound format supported somewhere...

    I am not sure if we can actually hear the difference. Especially between 24 and 32 bit.

    Same goes for sample rates. A sampling rate of 44 or 48kHz can accurately represent the highest frequencies that the human hear can detect, and our sensitivity is pretty low at such high frequencies.
    Yet, even a low-end audio recorder like my Zoom H1 supports recording at 96kHz / 24bit.

    Honestly, I really only use this high sampling rate if I am trying to capture ultrasounds.

    For recorded sounds, such high sampling rates and bit definitions only make sense if the audio that is recorded with these settings is very high quality to begin with - meaning studio recordings with top end mics and signal chains.
    On the other hand, now that so many sounds are generated 'inside the box', i.e. entirely computer generated, audio and electronic noise does not exist. So, yes, if you are generating these sounds out of your DAW at 24 or 32 bit you can get a better quality sample...
    I would still say that physically, I cannot hear the difference between 24 and 32 bit. Maybe I just need better speakers (or better ears...)